Intervjui

SUM 41 - ‘Glad i želja su i dalje tu!’
07.03.2017. | |

Čak i samo površnim pogledom na početak veka i vreme kada je MTV još uvek bila muzička televizija i bila relevantna, nemoguće je prevideti kanadsku, tada četvorku, a danas petorku, Sum 41. Kao jedna od glavnih uzdanica takozvanog MTV punk ili pop punk zvuka, rušili su sve pred sobom, prodavali milione nosača zvuka, i nizali uspešne singlove kao što su “Fat Lip”, “Into Deep”, “Still Waiting”, “Motivation” i mnoge druge. Ironično, kako su odrastali, i njihov zvuk postajao zreliji, ozbiljni, a teme koje pišu relevantnije, popularnost benda počela je da opada, a bend je svoje mesto našao u zoni između glavnih tokova i podzemlja. Ipak, novi zvuk doneo im je mnogo verniju, publiku, i poštovanje u underground krugovima, kao i na samoj punk sceni. Ipak, nakon teškog razvoda koji je frontmen Deryck Whibley pretrpeo, i koji je kao posledicu imao njegove velike probleme sa alkoholom i drogama, a i zbog kojih je za dlaku izbegao smrt, band je usporio, te napravio nekoliko godina pauze. Ipak 2016. godine vratili su se na scenu, čini se puni želje i motivacije da nadoknade propušteno. Usledili su nastupi, novi album “13 Voices”, pa svetska “Don’t Call It a Sum-back” turneja, tokom koje su nastupili i u Beču. Naša ekipa bila je tamo da isprati ovaj koncert, ali i da razmeni nekoliko reči sa bendom. Sagovornici su nam bili basista Jason ‘Cone’ McCaslin, te gitarista i povratnik u bend Dave ‘Brownsound’ Baksh.

Pozdrav! Da li vam je ovo prvi put u “Gasometeru” ili ste i ranije nastupali ovde?
Cone:
Ne znam (smeh). Ime mi jeste poznato, ali sećam se nastupa u Beču pre nekoliko godina sa AFI. To je bio neki kao open-air prostor…

To je bila “Arena”…
Cone:
Arena?

Da, ali to nije prava arena, taj prostor se zove “Arena”.
Cone:
Oh, mesto se zove Arena! Okej! Tamo smo svirali poslednji put.

Onda će vam se ovde svideti, prostor je odličan.
Cone:
Da!

Sum 41

Pre ravno godinu dana nastupili ste na festivalu “Air + Style” u Insbruku. Kako vam se svideo festival, i da li je toliko dobro iskustvo kao što izgleda?
Cone:
Baš tako.
Dave:
Wow. To je bilo baš cool. Raditi tonsku probu i videti te momke kako rade te masivne skokove je bilo potpuno ludo.
Cone:
Da, a i Shaun White stoji iza toga, pa smo malo visili i sa njim.
Dave:
A on je stvarno sjajan tip.
Cone:
Ne dobijamo baš stalno priliku da nastupamo na takvim dešavanjima. Sva ta dešavanja, snowboarding, motor cross, i takve stvari, to je baš cool. Posebno je i drugačije.
Dave:
Upravo.

Da li je neko od vas u snowboard ili skate priči?
Cone:
Ne baš.
Dave:
Ne. Neki od nas su vozili skate, ali ja sam uvek bio užasan snouborder. Je*eno sam užasan na svemu što je na snegu. (smeh)

Prošle godine izdali ste novi album “13 Voices”. Kako je bilo vratiti se u studio nakon tolike pauze? Pogotovo za tebe, Dave. Ti neko vreme nisi bio u bendu…
Dave:
Bio sam sa bendom praktično od prestanka pauze, ali što se tiče samog rada u studio… Bilo je neverovatno vratiti se u studio sa postavom koju smo imali. Takođe, bilo je i novo iskustvo jer je svako bio u svom sopstvenom studiju. Slali smo fajlove jedni drugima, i bilo je sjajno jer nije bilo pritiska budžeta, ili mnogo vremena provedenog u velikom studiju. Bilo je mnogo prijatnije snimati u svom sopstvenom prostoru i svojoj zoni komfora.

Sum 41 - 13 Voices

*klikom na sliku otvarate recenziju albuma*

Koja je glavna razlika između “13 voices” i prethodnih albuma?
Cone:
Muzički, ima stvari koje se dešavaju na ovom albumu, a koje do sada nismo radili. Imamo čak i gudače. Ceo album počinje velikim aranžmanom za gudače, a to je nešto što nikada ranije nismo pokušali. A onda su tu tekstovi, znaš. Sve te stvari kojih se Deryck dotiče. Ne sećam se da je ikad išao toliko duboko kao na ovom albumu. Na primer, i ranije smo se doticali politike, ali ne koliko sada, pogotovo ne na početku kada se sve svodilo na veze i žurke. Tako da ovaj album ima drugačiji ton, zbog svega kroz šta je prošao. Mislim da se bend nikada nije toliko upuštao u sve to.

Za ovaj album odabrali ste “Hopeless Records” dok ste na ranijim izdanjima radili sa “major” etiketama. Šta vam više odgovara, da imate ogromnu mašineriju iza sebe i koje ste deo, ili da imate izdavača koji će vam ipak posvetiti malo više pažnje?
Dave:
U početku na “Island-u” imali smo sjajan tim iza sebe. Vodili su računa o nama, i bili smo im jedan od prioriteta kao izdavaču. A mogućnost da dođemo na “Hopeless” nakon što nam se završio “medeni mesec” sa “Island-om” je bila prava stvar. “Hopeless” nas sjajno tretira, i mislim da su trenutno mnogo bolji dom za nas, u ovom periodu naše karijere i u stadijumu razvoja u kom se oni nalaze.
Cone:
Mislim da je glavna stvar – nije važno da li je veliki ili nezavisni izdavač. Pitanje je ko je spreman da da 100% sebe za tvoj bend. Tamo ideš. “Island” to više nije radio za nas. “Hopeless” radi.

Primetio sam da nekoliko poslednjih turneja ne svirate mnogo pesama sa albuma “Screaming Bloody Murder”. Da li postoji neki dublji razlog za to, ili vam se ne leže toliko za sviranje?
Cone:
ne mislim da je zbog toga, mislim da je više zato što sada imamo više materijala, a nastup ima svoje trajanje. Svirali smo “Scumfuck” nekoliko puta, i “Reason to Believe” tu i tamo, ali kako imamo više albuma, a sada imamo i novi album, teško je posložiti setlistu. Ako bismo svirali po nekoliko pesama sa svakog albuma, morali bismo da sviramo po tri sata. (smeh) Uglavnom biramo singlove, neke nove pesme, i neke za koje znamo da ih publika voli, pa pokušavamo da to ubacimo u set.
Dave:
Da. Sedam tepsija sa kolačima, a porcije su ograničene. (smeh)

Na ovoj turneji svirate mnogo novih pesama, što mi se zapravo veoma sviđa. Volim kada su bendovi ponosni na novi material i forsiraju ga. Da li to znači da ste baš zadovoljni novim pesmama?
Cone:
Da, i stvarno dobro funkcionišu uživo. Znaš, čak i sa nekim pesmama sa prethodnih albuma, volimo kako su ispale na albumu, i pokušamo da ih sviramo uživo, ali nikad ne možeš da znaš kako će to ispasti. I onda počnemo da je sviramo uživo, i onda se osećamo onako - “aargh, ovo baš i nije pesma za sviranje uživo”, pa je zamenimo nečim drugim. Čini nam se da većina novih pesama jako dobro funkcioniše uživo, pa nam je lako da ih ubacimo u set. A i čini nam se da se ljudima baš sviđaju.

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Da li vam se neka nova pesma izdvojila kao favorit za sviranje na koncertima? Ili kao favorit publike?
Cone:
Ja volim “God Save Us All”.
Dave:
Da, to je sjajna pesma za sviranje. Moram da se složim, to mi je verovatno omiljena pesma sa svim svojim “up and down” momentima u sebi.

Imam pitanje baš u vezi sa tom pesmom. Na samom početku spota za ovu pesmu Deryck kaže kako oseća da je rock muzika ta koja ima snagu da poveže ljude, dok pop muzika nema tu moć. Šta time podrazumevate?
Cone:
Definitivno se slažem sa tim, makar u nekoj meri, jer pop muzika zaista ume da bude jako razvodnjena, i da govori o sranjima. Sve se svodi na “hajde da napravimo nešto keči”. I ne smatram da je sva pop muzika takva, ali generalno… Mnogo stvari koje čujem je baš takvo. Sve je užasno razvodnjeno i ne govori niočemu. Svodi se na neki plesni pokret ili tako nešto. Pretpostavljam da pop može da poveže ljude na taj način, na plesnom podiumu, ali to ne traje dugo. Ne prođe ni šest meseci, a ljudi zaborave na sve te pesme, dok je rock muzika drugačija. Čak i ljudi na našim koncertima - još uvek pevaju “Still Waiting”. Povezuje nas, povezuje njih, čim je se još uvek sećaju. A većina velikih pop pesama nestane nakon šest meseci, niko ih se više ne seća.


Znam da su neki od vas veliki fanovi hip hop muzike. Šta mislite o hip hop sceni danas?
Dave:
Mislim da sve raste, i da je izbor onoga što danas možeš da slušaš ogroman. Za mene, a mislim da će se i Cone složiti, dobar beat i dobar flow su sjajni, ali naravno, kao i kada smo bili mlađi, postoje DJ-evi ili MC-jevi sa kojima prosto ne možemo da se povežemo. Mislim da je danas drugačije utoliko što je izbor mnogo veći.

Isto pitanje za punk rock i pop punk. Poslednjih nekoliko godina, dešava se eskplozija pop punk zvuka, kao da je ponovo početak 2000-ih. Kako vidite nove bendove? Da li vidite novi talas energije i kreativnosti, ili ljude koji pokušavaju da uhvate talas koji ste vi i neki drugi bendovi izazvali?
Cone:
Mislim da sve zavisi od benda. Ne mislim da je sve sjajno, i ne mislim da je sve loše. Mislim da sad ne bih mogao da ti imenujem bendove, ali čujem ih na festivalima, na Warped Tour-u, gde god, i pomislim “O, ovo je stvarno odlično” ili “Ne, ne sviđa mi se ovaj bend”. Ali isto tako je bilo i kada smo se mi pojavili. Bilo je bendova koji nisu bili baš sjajni, i bendova koji su bili dobri. Ali mislim da je scena prilično jaka, trenutno ima mnogo bendova. Turneje prolaze sjajno, čak i kada su u pitanju novi bendovi, tako da mislim da je prilično jaka.
Dave:
Ima bendova koji rade jako, jako, jako naporno – sjajno je videti da su punk rock muzičari ponovo gladni i željni da uzmu stvari u svoje ruke i naprave nešto od sebe.

Čak i na “Hopelessu” imate bendove kao što su Neck Deep i ROAM…
Cone:
Da, oni naporno rade!
Dave:
Da, odlični bendovi! Neck Deep je verovatno jedan od najboljih “live” bendova novije generacije.

Baš sutra sviraju ovde, sa A Day To Remember.
Dave:
Sjajno! To će biti odlično!

Sum 41

Kažeš da postoje bendovi koji su još gladni, da li vi kao bend osećate tu glad? Zato što se tako čini. Stiče se utisak da ste novim albumom želeli da uradite nešto što će biti zapamćemo.
Dave:
Da. Mi jesmo svi opušteni, ali kada je u pitanju muzika, kada je u pitanju bina, zaista smo veoma nakmičarski nastrojeni.
Cone:
I veoma ozbiljni.
Dave:
Apsolutno, tu nema sumnje! Ludo je kako je i nakon 20 godina ta glad i dalje toliko jaka, i dalje nas vuče da svaki put kada izađemo na binu pružimo najbolji nastup koji možemo.

Dvadeset godina… Da li vam je godišnjica ove ili sledeće godine?
Dave:
Ove godine.
Cone:
U stvari je bila prošle godine.
Dave:
Prošle godine?
Cone:
1996!
Dave:
‘96, da, da,da!
Cone:
Sad smo tako matori...
Dave:
Da, već smo se zabrojali. (smeh)

Hvala što si mi uništio pitanje. (smeh) Znači pretpostavljam da neće biti neke kompilacije ili turneje zbog godišnjice?
Cone:
Nismo pričali o tome. Ali uradili smo turneju povodom godišnjice albuma “Does This Look Infected” negde 2012. ili 2013. i to je prošlo odlično. Tako da, ko zna, razgovaraćemo o tome. Mogli bismo da ponovimo tako nešto.

Nastupili ste na mnogim festivalima, ali šta vam više odgovara – mali klubovi ili veliki festivali sa ogromnom publikom i raznovrsnim programom?
Dave:
Reč je o potpuno različitim stvarima, i svakoj treba pristupiti na njoj svojstven način. Ne postoji nešto što preferiramo. Najbolja stvar za nas je dobra publika, a to je realno najviše što možeš da tražiš.

Sum 41

Nakon 20 godina karijere, kako se osećate kada treba da izađete na binu i borite se za publiku koja možda nije tu zbog vas, nego su možda došli da vide nekog drugog, na primer Iron Maiden. Da li još imate energije i motivacije za tako nešto?
Dave:
O da. Definitivno da!
Cone:
To je odlična prilika.
Dave:
Da, da, to je odlična prilika i vredi boriti se za nju!
Cone:
Mi nikada nismo bili stadionski bend ili bend koji će automastki biti hedlajner na svim festivalima, kao, ne znam… Metallica. Tako da smo mi uvek morali da se borimo. Na svakom festivalu, u nekoj meri osećam kao da pokušavamo da pridobijemo publiku. Naravno, uvek ima hardcore fanova koji su tu zbog nas, ali tu su uvek i ljudi kojima nismo toliko bliski, tako da se stalno borimo da ih pridobijemo.

Da li ste nekada imali loših iskustava sa publikom, da li su vas gađali nečim ili tako nešto?
Cone:
Moralo je biti nešto… Verovatno je bilo, ali ništa super ludo.
Dave:
Oh! Bilo je jedne godine na Reading festivalu. Mi smo svirali, a Metallica je bila hedlajner te godine. Svi bendovi su bili zasuti flašama napunjenim blatom, svim i svačim. U jednom momentu smo odsvirali mali isečak “Master of Puppets” koji inače ubacujemo u nastupe i odjednom je sve stalo. Metallica ima prilično tvrde fanove, ali opet, Metallica je tvrd bend, tako da je zasluženo. (smeh)

I šta je sledeće za vaš bend?
Cone:
Ove godine ćemo samo ići na turneje svuda.
Dave:
Da, trenutno radimo na nećemu sa Pierce The Veil u narednih nekoliko meseci. Biće veoma zabavno – širom Amerike. A onda se vraćamo na festivale u prvoj polovini leta. Možda bude još jedna evropska turneja, ali ne znam. Za sada tek pričamo o tome.

SUM 41 - ‘The hunger is still strong in us!’
07.03.2017. | |

It’s impossible to look at the early 2000s and the MTV while it was still relevant, and ignore Canadian four-piece, and now five-piece Sum 41. As one of the biggest names of pop punk, or so-call “MTV punk” scene, they were destroying everything in their way, selling millions of records, and releasing smashing hits like “Fat Lip”, “Into Deep”, “Still Waiting”, “Motivation” and many others. As they grew up, their sound became more serious, more mature, and the lyrics more relevant. Ironically, while their music was becoming better, they popularity started to drop. Soon, the band found itself in the zone between mainstream and underground, and made it their home. The new sound brought them a much more loyal fan base, and much more respect in the underground and punk scene. After years of success, the band experienced some hard times. Frontman Deryck Whibley had a heavy divorce that lead to his struggle with drugs and alcohol, and almost death. The band slowed down a bit, and went on short break. In 2015. the band got together, with a new drummer Frank Zummo, and the return of the former guitarist Dave Baksh after almost nine years. Hunger and motivation gave them new strength, and after a few tours, in 2016. the band released new record called “13 Voices” and started huge “Don’t Call It a Sum-back Tour” all over the world. One of the stops was Vienna on February 4th, and we were there to see it. Also, we got a chance to speak with bassist Jason ‘Cone’ McCaslin and guitarist Dave ‘Brownsound’ Baksh.

Is this the first time you play at “Gasometer”, or have you already played in this venue?
Cone:
I don’t know (laughs). The name rings a bell but I remember playing in Vienna a while ago with AFI. It was kinda like an outdoor place.

It was “Arena”…
Cone:
Arena?

Yeah, but it’s not the actual arena, the place is called Arena.
Cone:
Oh, the place is called Arena! Okay! That’s where we played the last time.

So this is gonna be amazing, because the place is really cool.
Cone:
Yeah!

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This time last year you were playing at the “Air + Style” in Innsbruck. How was that festival? Seems like an amazing experience.
Cone:
That’s right.
Dave:
Wow. That was pretty cool. Doing the sound check and seeing those guys do that massive jumps was pretty crazy.
Cone:
Yeah, and it’s Shaun White who puts it on, so we could hang with him a little bit.
Dave:
And he’s a really nice guy.
Cone:
We don’t get to play those kind of festivals all the time. Those snowboarding, motor cross, and things like that, so it was cool. It’s something different.
Dave:
Yeah.

Are you guys into snowboarding or skateboarding or anything similar?
Cone:
Not really.
Dave:
No. Some of us used to skate, but I was always a terrible snowboarder. Anything on snow I’m fucking horrible with. (Laughs)

Last year you released new record “13 Voices”. How was it going back to studio after such a long break?Especially for you, Dave. You have been out of the band for a few years…
Dave:
I’ve been with the band since we got back, but as far as being in the studio…It’s amazing to be back to the studio with the lineup we had.It was a new experience for us because we were all in our own studios. Files were sent to us and it was awesome because it was no pressure of the budget, of being in a big studio for a long time. It felt comfortable just to sit there and track music in your space and have your own comfort zone. Pretty awesome.

Sum 41 - 13 Voices

*Click on the picture to opet review of '13 Voices'*

What’s the main difference between “13 voices” and the previous records you made?
Cone:
There are some sounds and things that happened throughout the album that’s never been done before, musically. There’s even some strings. Like the whole album starts off with some big string arrangement and we’ve never done anything like that. And then lyrically, you know, what Deryck touches on. I don’t think he’s ever gone that deep before on other albums. I mean, we’ve done some more political stuff than before, and in early days it was more like relationship stuff and partying. So this one just has a different tone to it because of what he went through. I don’t think band’s ever touched on that before.

For this record you chose “Hopeless Records” as a record label and for some previous albums you worked with some major labels. What suits you better? Being a part of a big machinery or having a label that looks a bit more after you?
Dave:
In the beginning with “Island” we had a great team behind us. They cared about us and pretty much gave us a lot of priority at the label. And being able to come to “Hopeless” after the “honeymoon” kind of ran out with “Island” was the right thing.“Hopeless” treats us amazingly, they’re great label and I think that they’re a lot better of a home for us now especially at this stage of our career and especially at this stage of “Hopeless’” carrier as well.
Cone:
I think the bottom line is - it doesn’t matter if it’s major or indie. It’s whoever’s gonna put 100% in your band. That’s where you’re gonna go. And “Island” just wasn’t doing that for us anymore.“Hopeless” is.

I’ve noticed that in the last few tours you haven’t really played many songs from “Screaming Bloody Murder”. Is there any reason behind, or you just don’t feel those songs played live?
Cone:
I don’t think so, I think it’s because we got so many albums out now, and we got only certain amount of time to play. We played “Scumfuck” for a few times and “Reason to Believe” here and there, but as we have more albums, and now we have a new album, it’s just hard to fit songs in the set. If we would play many songs from every album, we would have to play for a three hours or so. (laughs) We choose singles, some new songs and some fan favorite songs and we try to put them in set.
Dave:
Yeah. Seven pots to choose from, and people only take so much sweetness, you know. (laughs)

 You’re playing a lot of songs from the new record and I actually like that because I love seeing bands being proud of their new material. So does that mean that you’re really happy with the album and proud of the songs?
Cone:
Yeah, and it really works live, too. You know, even some songs from previous albums, we like it on therecord and we try to play it live, but you never know how that’s gonna work. So we play it live and then we’re just like -“aargh, it’s not really a live song”, so we swap it for something else. Seems like on this one most of the songs work really well live and it makes it easy to put new songs into the set. And the people seem to really like them.

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Do you have a favorite song to play live on this album? Or maybe crowd’s favorite?
Cone:
I like “God Save Us All”.
Dave:
Yeah, that’s a great song to play live. I have to agree, it’s probably one of my favorites with all the ups and downs in it.

I have a question about this song. On the video there’s a voice that says that you feel like rock music connects and unites people and that pop music can’t do that. What do you mean by that?
Cone:
I definitely agree with that in a way, because pop music can be really watered down sometimes and talking about bullshit. It’s all about - “let’s make something catchy”. And I don’t mean all pop music is like that, but just in general... A lot of stuff that I’m hearing is just like that. It’s super watered down, and it doesn’t talk about anything. It’s just about some dance move or something like that. So I guess pop music connects people in that way, on the dance floor, but that’s gone soon. People forget about those songs like six months later, while rock music is different. Even people in our show would still be singing “Still Waiting”. It’s connecting, it has connected them since they still remember it. While pop song that was big six months ago is gone, nobody remembers it anymore.

I know some of you are big fans of hiphop. What do you think about hip hop today?
Dave:
I think that everything’s growing, I think that choice of what you can listen to is so vast. For me and I think for you Cone too, a good beat and a good flow is great, but of course just like back when we were younger there were DJs and MCs who weren’t really connecting with us. I think that there’s just a lot more to take in today.

The same question for punk rock and pop punk.In last few years, there was like explosion of pop punk like it is 2000s again. How do you see those new bands? Do you think there’s a new energy, new creativity or do you think it’s generic and people are just trying to catch a wave that you and other bands of your generation created?
Cone:
I think it just depends on the band. I don’t think everything’s great, I don’t think everything’s bad. I can’t even name those new bands, I hear songs here and there, on festivals, on the Warped Tour, wherever, all I think is “Oh, that band’s really good” or “I don’t really like that band”. But it’s the same when we were coming out. There were bands that were kind of not great and then there were bands that were good. I think the scene’s pretty strong though, there’s a lot of bands right now. Tours are going really well, even for the new bands, so I think it’s pretty strong.
Dave:
There are bands out there that are working hard, hard, hard - so it’s nice to see punk rock musicians hungry again to go out and make something out of themselves.

Even on “Hopeless” you’ve got bands like Neck Deep or ROAM…
Cone:
Yeah, they work hard.
Dave:
Yeah, great bands! Neck Deep is probably one of the greatest live bands out of new ones for sure.

They’re playing here tomorrow with A Day To Remember.
Dave:
Oh sweet! No way! That’s awesome!

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You said that there are bands that are still hungry, do you as a band feel hungry? Because it looks like it. It looks like with this record you wanted to put out something that’s gonna be remembered.
Dave:
Yeah. We’re all nice guys, but when it comes to music, when it comes to being on stage, we’re all pretty competitive.
Cone:
Pretty serious.
Dave:
Absolutely there’s no doubt! It’s crazy that after 20 years the hunger is still as strong as it is, to go out there and give the best kind of show we can, you know.

I think it will be 20 year anniversary next year or will it be this year?
Dave:
This year.
Cone:
It was actually last year.
Dave:
Last year?
Cone:
1996!
Dave:
‘96, yeah yeah yeah!
Cone:
We’re so old now.
Dave:
Yeah we lost count. (laughs)

Ok, thanks for destrying my next question. (laughs) So I guess you won’t be making any anniversary tour or something…
Cone:
There were no talks about it. But we did an anniversary tour for “Does This Look Infected” in 2012. or 2013. and it went well. So, who knows, we’ll talk about it. We might do something again.

Speaking of festivals - what do you like more: intimate club shows, or festivals with huge crowds and diverse line up, different types of bands?
Dave:
I think they’re completely different animals, and each one of them has to be respected in their own way. There’s no real preference. The best thing for us is a great crowd and that’s all you can really ask for.

Sum 41

So, after 20 years of your career, how do you feel about being on the stage and having to “fight” for the crowd who might not be there to see you but some other band like Iron Maiden for example. Do you still have that hunger and energy?
Dave:
Oh yeah, yes, definitely!
Cone:
It’s a good opportunity.
Dave:
Yeah, it’s great opportunity to fight for it!
Cone:
We’ve never really been a stadium band size where we headline every festival like, you know, “Metallica”. So we’ve always had to fight for it. On every festival I feel like we’re trying to win over the crowd, to a certain degree. Of course there are some hardcore fans that are there for us, but there are also people that are kind of unsure about us, so you’re winning over fans all the time.

Have you ever had any bad experiences with crowd, have they thrown things at you or something similar?
Cone:
It has to be… There probably was, but nothing super crazy.
Dave:
Oh! There was one year at Reading. We were playing and Metallica was headlining that year and every band was just getting bottles filled with mud and all the stuff just thrown at them. We ended up doing little snippet of “Master of Puppets” that we normally do on stage and everything just stopped. Metallica’s fans are pretty tough, but then Metallica is a tough band so yeah, well deserved. (laughs)

So, what’s next for you guys as a band?
Cone:
This year we’re just touring everywhere.
Dave:
Yeah, we’re trying to work something out with Pierce The Veil in a few months. It’d be pretty fun - allacross America. And then back for festivals for the first part of summer. There might be another European tour in the works, but I don’t know, it’s just in talks right now.

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